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The Bitcoin Foundation was established to provide voluntary guidance, and it once sponsored Bitcoin Core, the set of software libraries adopted by all the parties involved in the ecosystem: Now the foundation has no money and the core software is on its own. While Nakamoto developed elegant algorithms and an implementation, and kept his or her or their involvement active in the very early stages, the growth of Bitcoin required both protocol and software changes.
Instead, after development and discussion, new releases get released. After a few days, the number of nodes that have switched to XT is 8.
The first is software. Bitcoin XT is a different open-source code base from Bitcoin Core. That fork was released a few days ago. However, at present, it continues to produce blocks identically to the core software.
Those continuing to run Bitcoin Core would be safe until at least January , after which point the block size will increase from 1MB to 8MB, and the Bitcoin ledger, the blockchain, will fork. Each block in the ledger builds on the one before it, using cryptographic principles that chain one to the next. But these issues are quickly sorted out, because the longer chain always wins: Within a block or two, that chain is longer than any others, and all the nodes accept it as the truth, and the fork ends.
The same will happen with XT. If the XT software becomes the de facto software on the supermajority of computational power, it will quickly define the longest blockchain, and other nodes will either have to upgrade or give up. Andreson, Hearn, and others believe they have sufficient commitment already in place, and spent many months trying to keep the currency from splitting up. By Glenn Fleishman 6 minute Read.
Andreessen attempts to draw a parallel between the birth of the personal-computing era and the explosion of the publicly accessible Internet and Bitcoin.
These are fundamentally flawed analogies. While there are a number of significant milestones and breakthroughs in both PCs and the Internet on the road to mass adoption, there is no single figure like Satoshi Nakamato, the pseudonymous creator of the Bitcoin protocol and initial software implementation. He may be an individual or a collective that operated under that name. Marc was involved in creating SSL, for instance.
Personal computers were the result of continuous innovation and change in which part of the developments remained proprietary such as chip-making technology , and part was fully exposed to the light of day in academic research and shipping products.
The Internet grew as a result of well-documented government funding and with the initial participation of many thousands of people in academia, government, and private industry working together. Much of this was public, and I could list off hundreds of people involved in the creation of the Internet, and the popularization of the Web—including Andreessen!
Andreessen wants to paint parallels to show how Bitcoin has a fundamentally similar origin story, when there is little in common. By trying to normalize Bitcoin against previous technologies—PCs being primarily hardware with a significant software component and the Internet primarily data with a significant hardware component—he wants a general audience to accept that an entirely philosophical and intangible new thing is the same as these familiar old things.
I agree with Andreessen that Bitcoin is the first practical, large-scale mechanism to deal with the problem of decentralizing trust—no parties need know each other nor trust each other for transactions to complete successfully, verifiably, and irrevocably.
Bitcoin has a remarkable set of interlocking mechanisms that make it exceedingly hard for any individual or group to accumulate enough power to distort the public block chain, a sequence in which one set of transactions builds upon the next. If such distortion took place, it would become known, and various scenarios have been painted about what kind of response would occur.
Some suggest Bitcoin would collapse, and thus that no party would engage in attempting it, however impractical it would be to achieve. I also agree completely with Andreessen that Bitcoin can be used for an enormous number of non-currency related purposes in which permanent, irreversible proofs of transactions are required.
Further, these transactions can be proven to have been created by a party who possesses a private key; no other party can create such a proof. One of the fundamental current software architects of Bitcoin, Mike Hearn, explained to me how such transactions could be used to validate identities for discussion forums and for passports.
As a payment system, he asserts Bitcoin has enormous advantages over current credit-card and bank-processing networks. That contains a bunch of problematic statements. Without getting into the weeds, many Bitcoin transactions can be carried out without fees or very low fees, but transactions are only committed into the global block chain when miners accept those transactions: The minimum rate to pay, when a fee is paid, is based on the size of the transaction in bytes, and starts at 0. One can pay more, however.
Transactions with higher fees attached are committed more quickly. As the rate of transactions has increased, the fee has seemingly become more important, as no-fee and low-fee transactions can linger for longer periods without being built into a block and made permanent and thus useful for consummating a deal. The team has no specific power; it has to convince a supermajority of participants in the Bitcoin ecosystem to adopt software updates.
Andreessen masks several upcoming problems with his seemingly straightforward statement:. Andreessen then moves into advantages related to fraud:. But that is only true within the Bitcoin system. As far as can be determined, transactions are irreversible after a short period of time and cannot be counterfeited.
Chargebacks occur in the credit-card processing world, as do stopped checks, because of a dispute between a buyer and seller. Credit-card companies and banks mediate in disputes as a backstop to keep buyers happy and because of oceans of government regulations. On the other side, sellers by percentage of sales volume tend to be multi-billion-dollar companies, who otherwise have a lot of leverage against consumers and most other businesses.
When Andreessen says there are no chargebacks this is the point of view of a merchant or seller who deals with fraud. This will move chargebacks from intermediary mediated settlements to small-claims court and higher civil courts. This can, of course, save many tens or hundreds of billions of dollars a year globally and translate to more efficiency in commerce. Because Bitcoin is like untraceable cash, the process for solving a dispute would likely follow the same rules as for cash.
It also glosses over theft. Because Bitcoin relies entirely on the private retention of secrets private keys that prove ownership of given Bitcoins , a stolen Bitcoin is only traceable within the system to a certain extent, and thefts of millions and tens of millions of dollars have already occurred.
Because committed transactions are irreversible, stolen Bitcoins are valuable and nearly laundered. The discussion of fees and fraud thus also excludes the overhead to businesses. Companies will have to deal with fraud under the laws of the government under which they operate. We already have laws in America and most countries about receiving counterfeit currency it is valueless to the recipient when discovered and about fraudulent transactions: This is partly how the Madoff trustee has reclaimed lost billions from those who received payouts.
The issues for PCs and the Internet were about utility, not about whether or not they actually existed and had value. You could buy a PC; you could get an Internet connection. The cost and complexity of both started out so high, that early adoption was low, but the curve of acceleration for uptake was extremely high. With Bitcoin, we already have hard cash and credit cards that can be used for digital transactions, and we can transfer money as bits. Bitcoin is a replacement or supplement for an existing creaky and somewhat broken system that nonetheless works.
Is it a currency or a payment system? However, greater adoption could switch the verity of this statement and allow low-fee but some fee Bitcoin exchanges that take place in short periods of time.